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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
		<link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/ubuntu-appstore-in-the-workings/comment-page-1/#comment-35134</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for my english. where I say &quot;annoying&quot;, I wanted to say &quot;amazing&quot; :o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for my english. where I say &#8220;annoying&#8221;, I wanted to say &#8220;amazing&#8221; <img src='http://www.stefanoforenza.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
		<link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/ubuntu-appstore-in-the-workings/comment-page-1/#comment-35133</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Stefano: Maybe, but in the case most people joined linux and with such a big developing software community, I don&#039;t think I would be impossible, even talking about games like Grand Theft Auto. The power of sharing is annoying... And game&#039;s engines in linux are just beginning... In my opinion it&#039;s just a matter of time...

BTW, great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Stefano: Maybe, but in the case most people joined linux and with such a big developing software community, I don&#8217;t think I would be impossible, even talking about games like Grand Theft Auto. The power of sharing is annoying&#8230; And game&#8217;s engines in linux are just beginning&#8230; In my opinion it&#8217;s just a matter of time&#8230;</p>
<p>BTW, great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano Forenza</title>
		<link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/ubuntu-appstore-in-the-workings/comment-page-1/#comment-35131</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefano Forenza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sergio: I see no way an open source game can compete with Grand Theft Auto 4 or similar stuff. It&#039;s like to say that Creative Commons movies will pwn Warner Bros.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sergio: I see no way an open source game can compete with Grand Theft Auto 4 or similar stuff. It&#8217;s like to say that Creative Commons movies will pwn Warner Bros.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
		<link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/ubuntu-appstore-in-the-workings/comment-page-1/#comment-35130</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Some of you...

Do you think big software enterprises are really interested to join the linux OS? Let&#039;s have a look. Nowadays the MOST important barrier to common user to migrate to linux is that he/she&#039;s used to manage apps (mostly paid apps) from Windows or Mac OS, and usually enterprises ask for people who knows about Office, Photoshop, etc, instead of Openoffice, Gimp... If these apps would work well and easily in linux, obviously the linux community might grow dramatically fast. What would happen if 60-70% people use linux? The linux community is the most important open source developing community... How long would it take to all the enterprises with linux installed in their PC be migrating to open source apps? Today in a lot of cases, you have better free soft than its paid equivalent... How long would it take to have better open source games than paid ones? How long would it take to software enterprises to close and disappear?

In my opinion, the only chance for paid software developers is to keep the BIG community of PC users away from linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Some of you&#8230;</p>
<p>Do you think big software enterprises are really interested to join the linux OS? Let&#8217;s have a look. Nowadays the MOST important barrier to common user to migrate to linux is that he/she&#8217;s used to manage apps (mostly paid apps) from Windows or Mac OS, and usually enterprises ask for people who knows about Office, Photoshop, etc, instead of Openoffice, Gimp&#8230; If these apps would work well and easily in linux, obviously the linux community might grow dramatically fast. What would happen if 60-70% people use linux? The linux community is the most important open source developing community&#8230; How long would it take to all the enterprises with linux installed in their PC be migrating to open source apps? Today in a lot of cases, you have better free soft than its paid equivalent&#8230; How long would it take to have better open source games than paid ones? How long would it take to software enterprises to close and disappear?</p>
<p>In my opinion, the only chance for paid software developers is to keep the BIG community of PC users away from linux.</p>
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		<title>By: mpt</title>
		<link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/ubuntu-appstore-in-the-workings/comment-page-1/#comment-34773</link>
		<dc:creator>mpt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 08:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, even the most basic Web search would have shown you that Ubuntu developers have evaluated PackageKit extensively over the past two years.

There are at least two important technical differences between AppCenter and PackageKit. One is that AppCenter, like Add/Remove Applications and Synaptic before it, will allow interactive configuration during installation (for example, setting the administrator password for a database when installing it), something the PackageKit developers are determined not to allow. Another is that AppCenter is likely to use debtags heavily for presenting software by category, in a way that would be difficult for PackageKit to do if other packaging systems have no equivalent (or have equivalents that work in different ways).

It is quite possible that AppCenter will use some code from PackageKit. We are researching that this week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, even the most basic Web search would have shown you that Ubuntu developers have evaluated PackageKit extensively over the past two years.</p>
<p>There are at least two important technical differences between AppCenter and PackageKit. One is that AppCenter, like Add/Remove Applications and Synaptic before it, will allow interactive configuration during installation (for example, setting the administrator password for a database when installing it), something the PackageKit developers are determined not to allow. Another is that AppCenter is likely to use debtags heavily for presenting software by category, in a way that would be difficult for PackageKit to do if other packaging systems have no equivalent (or have equivalents that work in different ways).</p>
<p>It is quite possible that AppCenter will use some code from PackageKit. We are researching that this week.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/ubuntu-appstore-in-the-workings/comment-page-1/#comment-34748</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is this different from PackageKit?  Is Canonical just completely oblivious?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Invented_Here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is this different from PackageKit?  Is Canonical just completely oblivious?  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Invented_Here" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Invented_Here</a></p>
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		<title>By: Commercial Software on Linux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Commercial Software on Linux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 16:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you anywhere. Or as they say: Live by the sword, die by the sword. Canonical might be working on an &#8220;App Store&#8221; for Ubuntu, but that is not a prerequisite to successfully sell applications on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you anywhere. Or as they say: Live by the sword, die by the sword. Canonical might be working on an &#8220;App Store&#8221; for Ubuntu, but that is not a prerequisite to successfully sell applications on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 20:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a Linux AppStore would be a great idea.  But it doesn&#039;t even have to be Ubuntu specific.  Write the app so that it can be customized per distro.  The user reviews and ratings don&#039;t depend on the distro or package, so they can be shared across all distros.  And if it is open source and customizable, the each distro could put their own branding and organize their repositories on the frontend, and drive the installation through their own package managers on the back end.  But the app itself could be standard across the board.

You&#039;d have to figure out some way to work out the handling of money for purchases and donations.  You could have an open source server backend that each distro could run themselves.  And you could even have some sort of affiliate program so for example a smaller distro that was based on Ubuntu could use the backend server that Canonical ran, and in return the smaller distro would take a small cut of the sales that went through its distro.

As long as all the FLOSS software is still available for free as it currently is, and the main software of the distro is FLOSS, I don&#039;t see any problem with introducing a common way for commercial software to be introduced to Linux as well.  And if taking cut of commercial sales on their specific distro helps the distros to be financially viable, more power to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a Linux AppStore would be a great idea.  But it doesn&#8217;t even have to be Ubuntu specific.  Write the app so that it can be customized per distro.  The user reviews and ratings don&#8217;t depend on the distro or package, so they can be shared across all distros.  And if it is open source and customizable, the each distro could put their own branding and organize their repositories on the frontend, and drive the installation through their own package managers on the back end.  But the app itself could be standard across the board.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d have to figure out some way to work out the handling of money for purchases and donations.  You could have an open source server backend that each distro could run themselves.  And you could even have some sort of affiliate program so for example a smaller distro that was based on Ubuntu could use the backend server that Canonical ran, and in return the smaller distro would take a small cut of the sales that went through its distro.</p>
<p>As long as all the FLOSS software is still available for free as it currently is, and the main software of the distro is FLOSS, I don&#8217;t see any problem with introducing a common way for commercial software to be introduced to Linux as well.  And if taking cut of commercial sales on their specific distro helps the distros to be financially viable, more power to them.</p>
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		<title>By: MKx</title>
		<link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/ubuntu-appstore-in-the-workings/comment-page-1/#comment-34337</link>
		<dc:creator>MKx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anon
This is doesn&#039;t make sense.
No sane company that has invested in developing for Linux will limit the end product to one distro. and leave Fedora and other big distributions.
It&#039;s one mechanism inside Ubuntu for buying software developed for *Linux*. It doesn&#039;t stop you from buying software differently. If you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t buy the software this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anon<br />
This is doesn&#8217;t make sense.<br />
No sane company that has invested in developing for Linux will limit the end product to one distro. and leave Fedora and other big distributions.<br />
It&#8217;s one mechanism inside Ubuntu for buying software developed for *Linux*. It doesn&#8217;t stop you from buying software differently. If you don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t buy the software this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Dim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anon: &quot;pure free software&quot; and &quot;easy to use software&quot; are sometimes contradictory. For you &quot;pure free software&quot; is more important. While for most people (as Ubuntu&#039;s and Apple&#039;s success shows) &quot;easy to use software&quot; is more important than that &quot;freedom&quot;. You&#039;re free to stay with your Debian or something else you have chosen, that&#039;s your freedom. While Canonical and Shuttleworth and Ubuntu users have also their freedom. If I want to buy an app through the App Store, I don&#039;t want to be limited with this. That&#039;s my freedom too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anon: &#8220;pure free software&#8221; and &#8220;easy to use software&#8221; are sometimes contradictory. For you &#8220;pure free software&#8221; is more important. While for most people (as Ubuntu&#8217;s and Apple&#8217;s success shows) &#8220;easy to use software&#8221; is more important than that &#8220;freedom&#8221;. You&#8217;re free to stay with your Debian or something else you have chosen, that&#8217;s your freedom. While Canonical and Shuttleworth and Ubuntu users have also their freedom. If I want to buy an app through the App Store, I don&#8217;t want to be limited with this. That&#8217;s my freedom too.</p>
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