Comments on: The EU Parliament still sticks with Microsoft. Here’s why. http://www.stefanoforenza.com/the-eu-parliament-still-sticks-with-microsoft-heres-why/ Stefano Forenza - Personal Blog Tue, 24 Jan 2012 22:15:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Natanael Lhttp://www.stefanoforenza.com/the-eu-parliament-still-sticks-with-microsoft-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-34187 Natanael L Mon, 25 May 2009 06:50:49 +0000 http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=1393#comment-34187 Article: 2.3.3. The expression "no licence fees" is incorrect because free (in both meanings: free speech / free beer) software doesn't really exist. BSD!?!?? Public domain code? Ain't GPL free? Or LGPL? Or the Apache license? Now where the #&%/&"[]$\ have they been living the last 25 years? Nayden: "The real question now is does Larry want to kill Micro$oft ? If yes, he will spin OpenOffice off into a foundation and we will see a second round of the game Firefox eating IE, only this time the match will be called OO eating M$O. Let's wait and see." Sounds like fun. :D Foo: "Rampant piracy: in some places, 98% of PCs shipped with Linux run Windows within 12 months" May I ask What places are those? How did they come to this 98% figure?" Stephen Samuel: "So, the presumption here is that people will never pay for a copy of WIndows if it's not already on the machine?" +1 FTW xD Perfect, I'll never forget that one! Article: 2.3.3. The expression “no licence fees” is incorrect because free (in both meanings: free speech / free beer) software doesn’t really exist.
BSD!?!?? Public domain code? Ain’t GPL free? Or LGPL? Or the Apache license? Now where the #&%/&”[]$\ have they been living the last 25 years?

Nayden: “The real question now is does Larry want to kill Micro$oft ? If yes, he will spin OpenOffice off into a foundation and we will see a second round of the game Firefox eating IE, only this time the match will be called OO eating M$O. Let’s wait and see.”
Sounds like fun. :D

Foo: “Rampant piracy: in some places, 98% of PCs shipped with Linux run Windows within 12 months”
May I ask What places are those? How did they come to this 98% figure?”

Stephen Samuel: “So, the presumption here is that people will never pay for a copy of WIndows if it’s not already on the machine?”
+1 FTW xD
Perfect, I’ll never forget that one!

]]> By: Secret EU Open Source Migration Study Leaked « Hteles’s Bloghttp://www.stefanoforenza.com/the-eu-parliament-still-sticks-with-microsoft-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-33919 Secret EU Open Source Migration Study Leaked « Hteles’s Blog Wed, 20 May 2009 02:29:58 +0000 http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=1393#comment-33919 [...] Uma análise rápida ao estudo aqui : [...] [...] Uma análise rápida ao estudo aqui : [...]

]]> By: Microsoft Unleashes the Gartner Group to Sabotage Migration to GNU/Linux in Europe | Boycott Novellhttp://www.stefanoforenza.com/the-eu-parliament-still-sticks-with-microsoft-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-33864 Microsoft Unleashes the Gartner Group to Sabotage Migration to GNU/Linux in Europe | Boycott Novell Mon, 18 May 2009 12:25:55 +0000 http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=1393#comment-33864 [...] is what Stefano wrote. An Italian EU deputy, Marco Cappato, had the guts to ask. The reply was they were basing on a [...] [...] is what Stefano wrote. An Italian EU deputy, Marco Cappato, had the guts to ask. The reply was they were basing on a [...]

]]> By: swiftnethttp://www.stefanoforenza.com/the-eu-parliament-still-sticks-with-microsoft-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-33846 swiftnet Sun, 17 May 2009 17:08:42 +0000 http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=1393#comment-33846 Whenever a study is done pitting one OS vs another, ROI & TCO very rarely mention the cost of malware. Windows and the malware it fosters are extremely expensive in terms of TCO and ROI. Whenever a study is done pitting one OS vs another, ROI & TCO very rarely mention the cost of malware. Windows and the malware it fosters are extremely expensive in terms of TCO and ROI.

]]> By: HereAndNowhttp://www.stefanoforenza.com/the-eu-parliament-still-sticks-with-microsoft-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-33835 HereAndNow Sun, 17 May 2009 09:22:57 +0000 http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=1393#comment-33835 Governments should be pushing for all their applications to be online (either "internet" hosted or "privately" hosted). With HTML5, etc., it is possible for online applications to work offline, in the event that a network connection is lost. This would: 1. Give government agencies the flexibility to use whatever OS they prefer or they find most cost effective (Windows, OS X, Linux, ...). 2. Allow government employees to work from any location on any device (smartphone, tablet, netbook, notebook, desktop, ...). 3. Minimize/eliminate the risk of lock-in, by any vendor. 4. Set a good example for private industry to follow. Governments should be pushing for all their applications to be online (either “internet” hosted or “privately” hosted). With HTML5, etc., it is possible for online applications to work offline, in the event that a network connection is lost.

This would:
1. Give government agencies the flexibility to use whatever OS they prefer or they find most cost effective (Windows, OS X, Linux, …).
2. Allow government employees to work from any location on any device (smartphone, tablet, netbook, notebook, desktop, …).
3. Minimize/eliminate the risk of lock-in, by any vendor.
4. Set a good example for private industry to follow.

]]> By: zelrikhttp://www.stefanoforenza.com/the-eu-parliament-still-sticks-with-microsoft-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-33818 zelrik Sat, 16 May 2009 19:31:52 +0000 http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=1393#comment-33818 > finding a PC shipping with Linux? Here : http://wiki.club-ubuntu.org/index.php/Category:Linux_Computers > finding a PC shipping with Linux?

Here : http://wiki.club-ubuntu.org/index.php/Category:Linux_Computers

]]> By: Cumplicidade do Conselho da União Europeia e da Gartner nos truques baixos da microsoft « O Vigiahttp://www.stefanoforenza.com/the-eu-parliament-still-sticks-with-microsoft-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-33815 Cumplicidade do Conselho da União Europeia e da Gartner nos truques baixos da microsoft « O Vigia Sat, 16 May 2009 16:38:33 +0000 http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=1393#comment-33815 [...] Parlamento Europeu» que levantou esta questão, Marco Cappato e ainda uma breve descrição neste blog em inglês, o Conselho da UEuropeia em conluio com a Gartner, uma empresa de consultadoria, mais [...] [...] Parlamento Europeu» que levantou esta questão, Marco Cappato e ainda uma breve descrição neste blog em inglês, o Conselho da UEuropeia em conluio com a Gartner, uma empresa de consultadoria, mais [...]

]]> By: Patrickhttp://www.stefanoforenza.com/the-eu-parliament-still-sticks-with-microsoft-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-33804 Patrick Sat, 16 May 2009 12:32:32 +0000 http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=1393#comment-33804 Yeah, been here, done this. There are lies, damn lies and statistics. For instance, they show the ROI (return of investment page) and say there is NO ROI in site. They don't point out that each time they buy a newer version of things like MS Office, they have to PAY for it. There is NEVER a ROI in this picture. Further, they have to train new staff all the time and when there is a 'radical' change in MS Office (or Windows - I know, I know, but training services think this is necessary so they do it) they do the same. Each time they have new software in an agency, they retrain. This is a transparent misuse of information, but only obvious if you compare the two arguments rather than taking OOffice and identifying problems in using it. Seriously, I work in an agency with 4000 staff. Virtually none of them use anything that you cannot find in OOffice and that would not be easy to use once shown. I call BOLLOCKS on this report. The overall impression is they were paid to write a report to match an outcome. I've been through that too! Yeah, been here, done this.

There are lies, damn lies and statistics.

For instance, they show the ROI (return of investment page) and say there is NO ROI in site.

They don’t point out that each time they buy a newer version of things like MS Office, they have to PAY for it. There is NEVER a ROI in this picture. Further, they have to train new staff all the time and when there is a ‘radical’ change in MS Office (or Windows – I know, I know, but training services think this is necessary so they do it) they do the same.

Each time they have new software in an agency, they retrain.

This is a transparent misuse of information, but only obvious if you compare the two arguments rather than taking OOffice and identifying problems in using it.

Seriously, I work in an agency with 4000 staff. Virtually none of them use anything that you cannot find in OOffice and that would not be easy to use once shown.

I call BOLLOCKS on this report. The overall impression is they were paid to write a report to match an outcome.

I’ve been through that too!

]]> By: Fabienhttp://www.stefanoforenza.com/the-eu-parliament-still-sticks-with-microsoft-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-33797 Fabien Sat, 16 May 2009 10:25:52 +0000 http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=1393#comment-33797 > finding a PC shipping with Linux? Asus EEEPC? > finding a PC shipping with Linux?

Asus EEEPC?

]]> By: Stephen Samuelhttp://www.stefanoforenza.com/the-eu-parliament-still-sticks-with-microsoft-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-33787 Stephen Samuel Sat, 16 May 2009 05:12:19 +0000 http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=1393#comment-33787 “Rampant piracy: in some places, 98% of PCs shipped with Linux run Windows within 12 months” So, the presumption here is that people will never pay for a copy of WIndows if it's not already on the machine? “Rampant piracy: in some places, 98% of PCs shipped with Linux run Windows within 12 months”

So, the presumption here is that people will never pay for a copy of WIndows if it’s not already on the machine?

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