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> <channel><title>Comments on: Microsoft tax on Linux&#8217;s horizon ?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.stefanoforenza.com/microsoft-tax-on-linuxs-horizon/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/microsoft-tax-on-linuxs-horizon/</link> <description>Stefano Forenza - Personal Blog</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 22:15:59 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Stefano Forenza</title><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/microsoft-tax-on-linuxs-horizon/comment-page-1/#comment-30354</link> <dc:creator>Stefano Forenza</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:21:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=608#comment-30354</guid> <description>@KimTjik: the location of businesses doesn&#039;t matter. They&#039;re liable as long as they sell in the USA - a market too important to be left alone. As products are engineered to be sold world-wide, the dumbness of some country&#039;s patent system, condition all the products sold world-wide. For example, does Dell ship a (beer)free DVD codec in countries where software patents does not apply ? I never checked, but I am sure: of course not.
Also the massive past investments and accumulated patent portfolio, will put a great pressure on the patent system&#039;s overhaul to be made (if it will ever be made). I wouldn&#039;t bet my ass things will change soon.
@Anonymous: the lacking of price difference (or even worse, the fact the Ubuntu version was sometime slightly costier) has been lamented many times on Dell&#039;s IdeaStorm. (see also my answer to KimTjik: do you think the DVD codecs shipped with Ubuntu by Dell are free ?)
@Skymt: that&#039;s the point of my post. How you can compete with free ? You make Linux &#039;costly&#039;. As simple as that, Linux looses one of its biggest strengths. And FUD will keep raining on independent developers and small businesses, yay !</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KimTjik: the location of businesses doesn&#8217;t matter. They&#8217;re liable as long as they sell in the USA &#8211; a market too important to be left alone. As products are engineered to be sold world-wide, the dumbness of some country&#8217;s patent system, condition all the products sold world-wide. For example, does Dell ship a (beer)free DVD codec in countries where software patents does not apply ? I never checked, but I am sure: of course not.<br
/> Also the massive past investments and accumulated patent portfolio, will put a great pressure on the patent system&#8217;s overhaul to be made (if it will ever be made). I wouldn&#8217;t bet my ass things will change soon.</p><p>@Anonymous: the lacking of price difference (or even worse, the fact the Ubuntu version was sometime slightly costier) has been lamented many times on Dell&#8217;s IdeaStorm. (see also my answer to KimTjik: do you think the DVD codecs shipped with Ubuntu by Dell are free ?)</p><p>@Skymt: that&#8217;s the point of my post. How you can compete with free ? You make Linux &#8216;costly&#8217;. As simple as that, Linux looses one of its biggest strengths. And FUD will keep raining on independent developers and small businesses, yay !</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/microsoft-tax-on-linuxs-horizon/comment-page-1/#comment-30353</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:17:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=608#comment-30353</guid> <description>There is a price advantage for Dell Ubuntu computers: $50, the cost of an OEM license for Windows.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a price advantage for Dell Ubuntu computers: $50, the cost of an OEM license for Windows.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: skymt</title><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/microsoft-tax-on-linuxs-horizon/comment-page-1/#comment-30350</link> <dc:creator>skymt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:03:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=608#comment-30350</guid> <description>Worst-case scenario: Microsoft is serious about enforcing its FAT patents. The vfat driver would be removed from the official kernel in the next release, distributions follow suit. Most distributions would provide a point-and-click way to add a FAT driver (possibly vfat, perhaps a FUSE-based port) to those outside software-patent countries or who just don&#039;t care. Similar things have been done in the past with media codecs and libdvdcss. That leaves only commercial desktop distros to pay the &quot;Microsoft tax&quot;. It would suck, but it isn&#039;t Armageddon.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worst-case scenario: Microsoft is serious about enforcing its FAT patents. The vfat driver would be removed from the official kernel in the next release, distributions follow suit. Most distributions would provide a point-and-click way to add a FAT driver (possibly vfat, perhaps a FUSE-based port) to those outside software-patent countries or who just don&#8217;t care. Similar things have been done in the past with media codecs and libdvdcss. That leaves only commercial desktop distros to pay the &#8220;Microsoft tax&#8221;. It would suck, but it isn&#8217;t Armageddon.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KimTjik</title><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/microsoft-tax-on-linuxs-horizon/comment-page-1/#comment-30344</link> <dc:creator>KimTjik</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:56:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=608#comment-30344</guid> <description>It might happen in some limited scale. It will however be a strictly US business. I&#039;m not sure what implications such a scenario will have:
- companies will search for a base somewhere else but not in the US?
- products sold in the US will have an added &quot;tax&quot; on the price tag?
Even in the US companies choose court carefully before deciding to file a lawsuit. Why? Because not even in the US every court will &quot;upheld&quot; ridiculous interpretations of an outdated patent system.
Lets see what happens first: Microsoft&#039;s success in catching Linux in a tight net of unproven patent claims, or the already announced overhaul of the patent system?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might happen in some limited scale. It will however be a strictly US business. I&#8217;m not sure what implications such a scenario will have:<br
/> - companies will search for a base somewhere else but not in the US?<br
/> - products sold in the US will have an added &#8220;tax&#8221; on the price tag?</p><p>Even in the US companies choose court carefully before deciding to file a lawsuit. Why? Because not even in the US every court will &#8220;upheld&#8221; ridiculous interpretations of an outdated patent system.</p><p>Lets see what happens first: Microsoft&#8217;s success in catching Linux in a tight net of unproven patent claims, or the already announced overhaul of the patent system?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Boycott Novell &#187; Another Company Affiliated with Microsoft Sues Red Hat Using Software Patents</title><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/microsoft-tax-on-linuxs-horizon/comment-page-1/#comment-30333</link> <dc:creator>Boycott Novell &#187; Another Company Affiliated with Microsoft Sues Red Hat Using Software Patents</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:50:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=608#comment-30333</guid> <description>[...] asserted by Harald Welte, it&#8217;s about cost. Another person makes a similar suggestion, arguing that Microsoft wants to rationalise &#8220;Linux tax&#8221;.  How can you compete with [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] asserted by Harald Welte, it&#8217;s about cost. Another person makes a similar suggestion, arguing that Microsoft wants to rationalise &#8220;Linux tax&#8221;.  How can you compete with [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
