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> <channel><title>Comments on: Idiotic Apple</title> <atom:link href="http://www.stefanoforenza.com/idiotic-apple/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/idiotic-apple/</link> <description>Stefano Forenza - Personal Blog</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 22:15:59 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Bogdan Bivolaru</title><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/idiotic-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-26340</link> <dc:creator>Bogdan Bivolaru</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:00:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=184#comment-26340</guid> <description>patenting the Dock… M$ once tried to get one for the double click :D
M...soft actually got one patent for their ribbon interface - Office 2k7 - not that I&#039;m using it anyhow.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>patenting the Dock… M$ once tried to get one for the double click <img
src='http://www.stefanoforenza.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>M&#8230;soft actually got one patent for their ribbon interface &#8211; Office 2k7 &#8211; not that I&#8217;m using it anyhow.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sense Hofstede</title><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/idiotic-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-26183</link> <dc:creator>Sense Hofstede</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 08:59:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=184#comment-26183</guid> <description>I&#039;ve always found the way the patent system of the USA works. This really makes it worse. What a non-sense. Lets see if Emerald can get a patent on window borders with opacity!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always found the way the patent system of the USA works. This really makes it worse. What a non-sense. Lets see if Emerald can get a patent on window borders with opacity!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Peng&#8217;s links for Friday, 10 October &#171; I&#8217;m Just an Avatar</title><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/idiotic-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-26167</link> <dc:creator>Peng&#8217;s links for Friday, 10 October &#171; I&#8217;m Just an Avatar</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:53:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=184#comment-26167</guid> <description>[...] Forenza: Idiotic Apple. Another cross post from the Ubuntu Weblogs, but Apple has received a patent for their dock. AWN [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Forenza: Idiotic Apple. Another cross post from the Ubuntu Weblogs, but Apple has received a patent for their dock. AWN [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: flows</title><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/idiotic-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-26146</link> <dc:creator>flows</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:24:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=184#comment-26146</guid> <description>If it wasn&#039;t that sad about global patent systems, I&#039;d probably laugh at them  (patenting the Dock... M$ once tried to get one for the double click :D)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it wasn&#8217;t that sad about global patent systems, I&#8217;d probably laugh at them  (patenting the Dock&#8230; M$ once tried to get one for the double click <img
src='http://www.stefanoforenza.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: andrewsomething</title><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/idiotic-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-26139</link> <dc:creator>andrewsomething</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:16:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=184#comment-26139</guid> <description>So far the folks on the debian-legal list serve don&#039;t see much of a threat: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2008/10/msg00006.html
From a response to that post:
&quot;FWIW, the patent is more about zooming docks like the OSX one than plain
docks. I don&#039;t know how the different claims are to be understood
individually, but some are detailing the zoom factors with algebraic
formulas.
IANAL, but patents are not supposed to &quot;protect&quot; ideas, but
implementations. It is at least true in the hardware industry. It often
happens that companies circumvent competitor patents by implementing the
same idea in another way, sometimes even filing a patent for the new
implementation.
Maybe different implementations of the same idea would be fine.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far the folks on the debian-legal list serve don&#8217;t see much of a threat: <a
href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2008/10/msg00006.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2008/10/msg00006.html</a></p><p>From a response to that post:</p><p>&#8220;FWIW, the patent is more about zooming docks like the OSX one than plain<br
/> docks. I don&#8217;t know how the different claims are to be understood<br
/> individually, but some are detailing the zoom factors with algebraic<br
/> formulas.<br
/> IANAL, but patents are not supposed to &#8220;protect&#8221; ideas, but<br
/> implementations. It is at least true in the hardware industry. It often<br
/> happens that companies circumvent competitor patents by implementing the<br
/> same idea in another way, sometimes even filing a patent for the new<br
/> implementation.<br
/> Maybe different implementations of the same idea would be fine.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Julian</title><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/idiotic-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-26138</link> <dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:52:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=184#comment-26138</guid> <description>I read about this on slashdot and people there kept wondering about the strange patent Apple filed. AWN and Cairo Dock probably won&#039;t be affected by this as Apple was so uncommonly specific that it apparently only protects the Apple Dock from 1:1 copies.
Part of the specs are for example the _exact_ relations in size.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;d=PALL&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;s1=7,434,177.PN.&amp;OS=PN/7,434,177&amp;RS=PN/7,434,177
I think we&#039;re pretty safe on this one.
On a side note, I&#039;m not a very big Apple fan myself but we shouldn&#039;t forget about their OpenSource contributions of the last couple of years.
http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read about this on slashdot and people there kept wondering about the strange patent Apple filed. AWN and Cairo Dock probably won&#8217;t be affected by this as Apple was so uncommonly specific that it apparently only protects the Apple Dock from 1:1 copies.</p><p>Part of the specs are for example the _exact_ relations in size.</p><p><a
href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;d=PALL&#038;p=1&#038;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&#038;r=1&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;s1=7,434,177.PN.&#038;OS=PN/7,434,177&#038;RS=PN/7,434,177" rel="nofollow">http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&#038;Sect2=HITOFF&#038;d=PALL&#038;p=1&#038;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&#038;r=1&#038;f=G&#038;l=50&#038;s1=7,434,177.PN.&#038;OS=PN/7,434,177&#038;RS=PN/7,434,177</a></p><p>I think we&#8217;re pretty safe on this one.</p><p>On a side note, I&#8217;m not a very big Apple fan myself but we shouldn&#8217;t forget about their OpenSource contributions of the last couple of years.</p><p><a
href="http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://developer.apple.com/opensource/index.html</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nicolás</title><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/idiotic-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-26127</link> <dc:creator>Nicolás</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:47:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=184#comment-26127</guid> <description>I saw on youtube the Steve Jobs&#039;s stanford talk, and i loved it!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw on youtube the Steve Jobs&#8217;s stanford talk, and i loved it!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Stefano Forenza</title><link>http://www.stefanoforenza.com/idiotic-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-26125</link> <dc:creator>Stefano Forenza</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:42:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.stefanoforenza.com/?p=184#comment-26125</guid> <description>Forgot: I am not a &quot;dock&quot; user myself.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot: I am not a &#8220;dock&#8221; user myself.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
