Comments on: Canonical shuts down Ubuntu Satanic store

By: Yaro

Yaro — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:16:35 +0000

Wasn’t Ubuntu CE more or less “deadified” because a great deal of people saw what kind of scam it was?

Either way, I don’t count remasters as separate distributions. I’m of the opinion that to create a new distribution, there needs to be an emphasis on CREATE and NEW. If you’re forking, you still gotta do some actual building and real development. Otherwise it’s just a remaster, a custom install of something that already exists.

Too many remasters of Ubuntu exist. Way too many. And too many of their so-called “creators” try to pass them off as new distros.

By: Stefano Forenza

Stefano Forenza — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:52:30 +0000

@jacques merde: sure. By the way, I omitted to note that Ubuntu SE doesn’t do any money. Not even on the items they sell (they’re commission free, to have them as cheap as possible from CafePress).
And is doubtful they’ll ever will.

The importance of issues like this is that they teach the (perceived) how to deal with community and teach the community whether or not a company can recognize a mistake.
Canonical has every right to defend their trademark, but.. is it right ? When to do it, and when not ?

The issue is now solved and Ubuntu SE is marked as a parody, with an explicit license sent from Canonical. It’s a small additional step in building an history of trust.

(I should note they’re perceived as a very ethical company, btw)

By: jacques merde

jacques merde — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:40:17 +0000

Basically I was just making the observation that “incidents” like this one with Ubuntu SE usually end up generating a lot of free publicity for the party being “oppressed” — much more publicity than they could generate if they had to actually pay cash for it. Think of how many more people (like me, for example) are now aware of the existence of Ubuntu SE because of the buzz this incident has generated in the press and blogosphere.

By: Stefano Forenza

Stefano Forenza — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:12:13 +0000

@jacques merde: I can’t really make sense of your last comment. Btw the issue between Canonical and the Satan edition makers is solved, now.

By: jacques merde

jacques merde — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:05:41 +0000

Stefano,

I think it doesn’t pay to be too serious about this stuff. Anyway, I wasn’t heretofore aware of the existence of Ubuntu Satanic Edition. Now, though, I’ll definitely be checking it out. You know, you just can’t buy that kind of PR with a normal advertising budget. Thanks Canonical!

By: Stefano Forenza

Stefano Forenza — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:49:29 +0000

@jacques merde: as you may have guessed, I’m not that into Satanism, so I can easily be wrong. Agnostic religion is definitely an oxymoron.

By: jacques merde

jacques merde — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:43:43 +0000

@Stefano Forenza:

You said: “leaving aside satanism, which is some kind of agnostic religion…”

I have to disagree. As Satan is the invention of organized religion, Satanism is definitely NOT an “agnostic religion”. Come to think of it, “agnostic religion” sounds like of them there oxy-morons, like “professional sports”

By: James D

James D — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:51:46 +0000

It’s parody. Which is protected in the USA. Why do you think Canonical used their English office?

By: Jono Bacon

Jono Bacon — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:32:06 +0000

All sorted! Read http://ubuntusatanic.org/news/cananical-shut-down-ubuntu-se-store/#comment-54818

Stefan, thanks for the kind words by the way, you rock!

Jono

By: Stefano Forenza

Stefano Forenza — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:25:53 +0000

Dunno about the Muslim, but the Christian Edition is already dead. Evil always wins

Ubuntu Satanic Edition has already been discriminated by DistroWatch by the way